tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post8051214783233521956..comments2024-01-17T19:08:52.409+13:00Comments on Never Mind Yaar: Do Indians Take Things Lying Down?Khoty Mathurhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09706537182743683089noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-28212572531226001472013-04-08T21:11:17.131+12:002013-04-08T21:11:17.131+12:00Thanks, Rajuda. Read your post and left a comment....Thanks, Rajuda. Read your post and left a comment.Khoty Mathurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09706537182743683089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-77054571067502411812013-04-08T17:10:20.547+12:002013-04-08T17:10:20.547+12:00Those who cling to power and chase it to eternity ...Those who cling to power and chase it to eternity have only one mission - Cultivate power! Any 'mature exchange of views' with the potential to ruin the harvest has to be preempted. Watch panel discussions on Indian TV channels. I felt compelled to write about it recently: http://www.teega.com/2012/11/schhh-we-are-looting.html <br /><br />Your words stirred my thoughts. Look forward to more such posts. <br /><br />Best Regardsrajudahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02785120414798400093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-46069898670953265102013-04-04T14:00:55.536+13:002013-04-04T14:00:55.536+13:00I agree that sometimes we, as individuals are ofte...I agree that sometimes we, as individuals are often subdued and cowed into silence. At least we've made a start - by becoming conscious of this dimension to our nature. Hope we don't learn aggression but convey our feelings tactfully yet CLEARLY and firmly. As for our politicians can't say I understand their priorities. What drives them? (besides tax payer money in some of their own pockets, of course.) Khoty Mathurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09706537182743683089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-35805181817998989102013-04-02T23:53:15.774+13:002013-04-02T23:53:15.774+13:00Agree to a point, Damyanti. There comes a time whe...Agree to a point, Damyanti. There comes a time when you do need to speak up. Take one example - when more and more lowlives start believing they can get away with rape by simply blaming women for their own ugly actions, decent Indians (both male and female) do need to unite (for safety) and speak up as they have. (The police were forced to arrest those creeps and not let them get away as they have in the past.)Khoty Mathurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09706537182743683089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-41692336746596115062013-04-02T20:44:08.448+13:002013-04-02T20:44:08.448+13:00Guts and glory make history, for sure. But neither...Guts and glory make history, for sure. But neither matter at the end of the day-- what matters is survival, and India and Indians have made a swell job of that.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04283371140346602856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-77396751618075657022013-03-31T22:43:22.800+13:002013-03-31T22:43:22.800+13:00Thanks Flying high.Thanks Flying high.Khoty Mathurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09706537182743683089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-58349864484706114732013-03-31T21:56:36.386+13:002013-03-31T21:56:36.386+13:00very insightful and interesting...very insightful and interesting...Flying high in the sky....https://www.blogger.com/profile/15696562802402238945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-31017929190791684452013-03-26T16:09:27.085+13:002013-03-26T16:09:27.085+13:00We've woken up to their games, we're aware...We've woken up to their games, we're aware of how they operate before, during and after elections, how they loot the treasury and why they are able to get away with it. Wonder what we'll do to feel less threatened.Khoty Mathurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09706537182743683089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-39840939475204137072013-03-26T11:38:04.838+13:002013-03-26T11:38:04.838+13:00Appeasing the minority to get more support for the...Appeasing the minority to get more support for the party - that's how Indian politicians survive. Playing one section of the community against another, using the reservation card to create strife...it's not just the Hindu, but also the liberal, middle class who's feeling threatened. Purbahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06345755953291104000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-56381611626195641452013-03-25T22:17:12.785+13:002013-03-25T22:17:12.785+13:00Will say Amen to that! Thanks, Megha.Will say Amen to that! Thanks, Megha.Khoty Mathurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09706537182743683089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-4737217383213464562013-03-25T20:40:31.253+13:002013-03-25T20:40:31.253+13:00Change is surely in air..There is a positive outlo...Change is surely in air..There is a positive outlook towards life but still we need to get out of our comfort zone..<br /><br />love<br />http://www.meghasarin.comMegha Sarinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02258104653342880678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-22087092301712639942013-03-25T05:10:32.460+13:002013-03-25T05:10:32.460+13:00I think we are coward. It's something we are t...I think we are coward. It's something we are taught, not to speak our mind. As far as our politicians are concerned, they want money and they are not bothered what is happening to the people of India. It's very sad what has happened in Kashmir. The only thing I like about China is that no one can say anything to them, not even big brother. Will read what Gautier said. Thanks for sharing this thought provoking read.Saru Singhalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12860642404643756746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-49612772421408873212013-03-24T13:49:32.912+13:002013-03-24T13:49:32.912+13:00Whatever name we call our attitude - tolerant, ind...Whatever name we call our attitude - tolerant, indifferent, easy going, mild, lazy or apathetic - sometimes it might also be cowardly. Hopefully we won't react to that by being provoked, hasty nor hurt or stung. I like our easy going and laid back attitude. But on occassion when we should react more strongly I hope our actions are measured, planned, well thought out and beneficial to us long term. In Jyoti's case our greatest strength was our UNITY, willingness to be in it for the long haul and our determined resolve to ensure the culprits were brought to justice.<br /><br />As for your other comment, thanks :)Khoty Mathurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09706537182743683089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-34419840955692669472013-03-23T19:47:07.859+13:002013-03-23T19:47:07.859+13:00A very thought provoking post. Tolerance and non-...A very thought provoking post. Tolerance and non-violence only works if the other party also believes in the same values. Being tolerant with violent parties can often be confused with cowardice. Also, sometimes its not really cowardice, more of indifference. We are remarkably undemanding of our politicians/leaders. But that is changing a little, take Jyoti Pandey's case and what an outpouring there has been. On a smaller level, the incident of the Italian marines. Baby steps, but things are changing, thankfully.<br /><br />Off topic, but truly liked the name of your blog, don't think I have mentioned it earlier :) Have a great weekend.Nilanjana Bosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08656370320322301943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-34596954114426153782013-03-23T14:03:27.907+13:002013-03-23T14:03:27.907+13:00I guess the first step is to acknowledge this shor...I guess the first step is to acknowledge this shortcoming. The second, I think, would be to unite and take a stand as we know we cannot individually appeal to the sense of what's right or wrong in some people like our politicians who've looted the treasury for instance. Khoty Mathurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09706537182743683089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-41011934527910366372013-03-23T13:57:47.462+13:002013-03-23T13:57:47.462+13:00Would love to read your thoughts on the matter, DK...Would love to read your thoughts on the matter, DKKhoty Mathurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09706537182743683089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-34626128438575071552013-03-23T07:07:49.375+13:002013-03-23T07:07:49.375+13:00There is a thin like between cowardice and patienc...There is a thin like between cowardice and patience. The problem is that if you exert too much patience, the bully will take it as a sign of cowardice. There is a point when you have to take a stand and Indians are usually incapable of it. amithttp://mashedmusings.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-53669880819979396892013-03-23T04:41:28.136+13:002013-03-23T04:41:28.136+13:00The "desire for peace at any costs" has ...The "desire for peace at any costs" has gotten severely misinterpreted over the centuries. Sometimes, to sustain peace, you have to eradicate bullies and threats like the British -- then you have true peace. India did not do this, and ended up paying a heavy price. Still, Gautier was way out of line for calling Hindus cowards simply because we don't go picking a fight and are more tolerant. But as far as Indians taking things lying down, that is absolutely true -- we put up with so much crap and that's why our country is in the state that it is in.<br /><br />Excellent thought-provoking article, KayEm. I may end up writing a post on a similar topic.Dark Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12443167342411530535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-72708003905344593962013-03-22T10:05:44.078+13:002013-03-22T10:05:44.078+13:00Such excessive and relentless heat does affect liv...Such excessive and relentless heat does affect living things. Even animals remain passively in the shade waiting for evening. If, on the other hand, we had to deal only with the cold, would we be spurred on to move? Don't know because we have another non incentive. <br /><br />We depend on others to do things for us, others who are available in great numbers, are poor, will work for a pittance (although I am told, not anymore:) and who don't have the luxury of letting their energy be sapped.<br /><br />Perhaps such conditioning - physical laziness - makes us cowardly too. Pure conjecture but something to think about?Khoty Mathurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09706537182743683089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-52159148110188962222013-03-22T09:49:36.045+13:002013-03-22T09:49:36.045+13:00He's mentioned the British Raj too, Meenakshi,...He's mentioned the British Raj too, Meenakshi, as "the humiliating colonial yoke of the British". To have people of another race, however wonderful, take over the whole country is very disturbing to the psyche. Thank goodness for Gandhiji's courage and unique way of fighting that rule after 200 years. No doubt there were other pockets of resistance but on the whole we did accept it without a murmer which is Gautier's point. The two countries remained friends (or business associates) but individuals from both sides, in various ways and to varying degrees, have still not forgotten that unfortunate episode in our history.Khoty Mathurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09706537182743683089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-44437967949439355632013-03-22T09:38:23.829+13:002013-03-22T09:38:23.829+13:00Guess a bit of introspection doesn't harm us. ...Guess a bit of introspection doesn't harm us. We should thank Francois Gautier for fearlessly stating what he feels.Khoty Mathurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09706537182743683089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-41423199828496993802013-03-22T05:10:31.623+13:002013-03-22T05:10:31.623+13:00"Desire for peace at any cost" is but a ..."Desire for peace at any cost" is but a winded out phrase for cowardice. If anything, it tempts the assailants to behave more atrociously. That is a fine mirror you have worked up in that post. umashankarhttp://uspandey.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-2298445713283986652013-03-22T03:16:06.841+13:002013-03-22T03:16:06.841+13:00Thank God he didn't go to medieval history, at...Thank God he didn't go to medieval history, attacks on our temples, to British Raj. Woman'n'Beyondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07531334717489796258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-58406168117678487542013-03-22T02:43:24.650+13:002013-03-22T02:43:24.650+13:00I don't think it is cowardice. Partly desire ...I don't think it is cowardice. Partly desire for peace. More than that the attitude of not bothering much about anything that does not affect one personally. Indians are quite lazy. Nirad C Choudhary wrote in his autobiography that the very climate of the Indo-Gangetic plains saps the vitality of the people. There's something - don't know whether it's the climate - which makes Indians lethargic.Tomichan Matheikalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05037872309096060126noreply@blogger.com