tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post5005458085693401654..comments2024-01-17T19:08:52.409+13:00Comments on Never Mind Yaar: Older women heroines in Bollywood?Khoty Mathurhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09706537182743683089noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-24038180952219284502012-06-24T21:53:16.357+12:002012-06-24T21:53:16.357+12:00I agree that to make formula films is unforgivable...I agree that to make formula films is unforgivable. Such a poor substitute for a unique storyline. Welcome to the blogging world - recording the wildlife of India before it disappears is both sad and noble. Hope you succeed in making the government sit up and listen.Khoty Mathurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09706537182743683089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-9999328878764329102012-06-24T19:18:47.282+12:002012-06-24T19:18:47.282+12:00Unfortunately, our film industry is not making mov...Unfortunately, our film industry is not making movies based on stories by good novelists. Hence there is paucity of thought and some ridiculous formula movies. <br />SabyasachiArjunaUbachahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14353186902659651125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-71890790825835480132012-05-29T07:48:07.980+12:002012-05-29T07:48:07.980+12:00I've always believed that our movie industry i...I've always believed that our movie industry is progressive in thought. Having said that I accept that they must make something that rakes in the profits. They seem to believe this genre won't. Makes me pause and think on many fronts.Khoty Mathurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09706537182743683089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-27746386683015060252012-05-29T03:22:06.273+12:002012-05-29T03:22:06.273+12:00Some of our actresses of yesteryear are still so l...Some of our actresses of yesteryear are still so lovely and graceful... pity we don't make movies that give them a chance to play leading roles too.Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10677346098586090998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-11453099262752890672012-05-25T17:14:52.332+12:002012-05-25T17:14:52.332+12:00Rajat Kapoor and team - must remember that. Watche...Rajat Kapoor and team - must remember that. Watched "I am" yesterday and "I am Kalam" last week. "I Am" was definitely new age cinema. The Kashmir story was touching and the actresses were brilliant. Kalam was about Rajasthan and friendship between two young boys - simply superb. So glad not everything is prances, jiggles and stereotypes. Thanks Flying High.Khoty Mathurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09706537182743683089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-1695663009929544152012-05-25T03:45:43.426+12:002012-05-25T03:45:43.426+12:00lovely!! very well written...and i do see a point ...lovely!! very well written...and i do see a point here :) ...you are right ... fortunately 30 has become yesteryear's 26 so some actresses are still ruling the cinema... some are brilliant dancers despite child birth and age..and thankfully as audience we are more matured and do realise that these people come with some sort of grace and control which only age can bestow upon you ... some of the movies (especially Rajat Kapoor and team) do a brilliant job breaking this "centre of world" beauty queen syndrome... lovely post!!Flying high in the sky....https://www.blogger.com/profile/15696562802402238945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-45113979898813029132012-05-24T09:17:18.294+12:002012-05-24T09:17:18.294+12:00Too true, Rahul and more power to them. They are r...Too true, Rahul and more power to them. They are reaping the benefits of what the older generation of women went through while trying to overcome the status quo and giving themselves more life choices.Khoty Mathurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09706537182743683089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-29444549925177905572012-05-23T18:03:15.902+12:002012-05-23T18:03:15.902+12:00You've pointed out the disparity in thought ve...You've pointed out the disparity in thought very well. I'd forgive them if they could at least prance about with grace. And thank goodness for those ageless stars you mention. Just waiting for stories that deserve them.Khoty Mathurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09706537182743683089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-39604498630112219432012-05-23T17:17:49.321+12:002012-05-23T17:17:49.321+12:00Indians are youth fixated. And we have to put up w...Indians are youth fixated. And we have to put up with middle aged superstars, play college students and romance girls young enough to be their daughter. A heroine in her 30's is considered past her prime and is relegated to the sidelines. <br /><br />But like Deepthi said, there is a perceptible change. Heroines are being accepted for their talent rather than how they look. For actors like Konkona, Vidya, Shabana - age is just a number.Purbahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06345755953291104000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-75910754243266297682012-05-23T09:05:01.971+12:002012-05-23T09:05:01.971+12:00A very good actress, our Vidya Balan. As for older...A very good actress, our Vidya Balan. As for older men being chauvinistic, I guess many of them were - a sign of their times? I'm optimistic too. Will be fascinating to watch what older women are capable of without the prejudices of the past holding them back.Khoty Mathurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09706537182743683089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-62350035497884519102012-05-23T04:52:40.121+12:002012-05-23T04:52:40.121+12:00As compared to say a decade ago, I feel there is a...As compared to say a decade ago, I feel there is a slight change that we can see now. Say for instance, could we have imagined the kind of roles Vidya Balan, all of 34 is managing to snag despite it being a slim and sexy heroine era still. I think it will take a while for our films and society to carve out roles like Helen Mirren and Meryl Streep still get. But I'm optimistic. I see a change in the attitude of the younger men as compared to the more chauvinistic previous generation. So maybe there is somewhere a silver lining..:)Journomusehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03637288687087961594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-47316224522485875762012-05-23T00:27:04.997+12:002012-05-23T00:27:04.997+12:00Thanks, VK. There's so much that is untapped a...Thanks, VK. There's so much that is untapped and unique to india that would be fascinating to watch - like older women in main roles and hopefully, not trying to act young but mature, sensitive, astute, sensible... As for the great Bacchan, I agree he's good but a bit over exposed.Khoty Mathurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09706537182743683089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-61353161419323654762012-05-22T16:53:33.386+12:002012-05-22T16:53:33.386+12:00Very well written article, KM. Yes, it's very ...Very well written article, KM. Yes, it's very heartening to see elder women break away from convention and participate in every aspect of film making (whether commercial or art).<br /><br />The scene of elder women playing supporting roles to younger ones is something common in males also. It's just the legendary ones (like AB Snr.) who can still play the lead now.<br /><br />Once again, great post :)Vishal Katariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08171798388180255475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-20508704349195831512012-05-22T15:48:57.021+12:002012-05-22T15:48:57.021+12:00For whatever it is worth DI, most people are influ...For whatever it is worth DI, most people are influenced by films and TV in India. I believe older women can bring a degree of honesty and reality into that medium. They don't need physical beauty to resonate with their audience. They don't need to prance about with youngsters. To show what success and fulfilment means to individual older women would make for good viewing and would influence many people for the better, I think. (Ultimately it boils down to the skill of the author, the artiste etc. but you see the connection, I hope.)Khoty Mathurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09706537182743683089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-3069544152506578512012-05-22T13:14:13.017+12:002012-05-22T13:14:13.017+12:00You are right, Zephyr. Indians are maturing into d...You are right, Zephyr. Indians are maturing into discerning, world class audiences. The older woman has played venerated Ma and cruel MIL roles for decades. Would love to see her in all her multi dimensional garbs as she is today.Khoty Mathurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09706537182743683089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-39253710048234377752012-05-22T13:07:51.156+12:002012-05-22T13:07:51.156+12:00Your arguments in the post about women then and wo...Your arguments in the post about women then and women now was very good, but I sort of felt that the focus was diluted in the title. I have the least respect for Bollywood (or any other film industry of India) and hence irrespective of whether older women play significant roles in movies or not, I am sure they will play significant roles in most other areas in life. Which was, your conclusion too, I guess.<br /><br />Destination InfinityDestination Infinityhttp://www.destinationinfinity.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-19831181902335443862012-05-22T12:56:16.716+12:002012-05-22T12:56:16.716+12:00So right, CS - arm-candy and beefcake roles. Just ...So right, CS - arm-candy and beefcake roles. Just one point though - "fitness" seems to suggest they aren't worthy unless they are physically perfect. Powerful stories, women and men of character, young and old, male and female - that is where I'd like us to be. Are you listening, Bollywood?Khoty Mathurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09706537182743683089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-8749292883458470722012-05-22T02:03:54.430+12:002012-05-22T02:03:54.430+12:00I would love to see older women playing meaningful...I would love to see older women playing meaningful roles too. Look at Judi Dench and other Hollywood heroines. We are transforming into mature film audience.And we do have a lot of older heroines waiting for such roles.zephyrhttp://cybernag.innoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-76912962549608209152012-05-21T23:41:28.345+12:002012-05-21T23:41:28.345+12:00Women are getting a semblance, at least, of the eq...Women are getting a semblance, at least, of the equality that should never have been denied them in the first place. But...Bollywood! That will be a looong wait. Heroines are still mostly getting arm-candy roles and if equality is at all coming it is because the Heroes are getting beefcake roles and not because movies are becoming more intelligent.<br /><br />But some change has come. The age bar has been pushed thanks to fitness..and acting post-marriage has almost become the norm. So wait till meatier roles are available and older heroines shall be more common.C Sureshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07447144019185253116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-21245082808452817672012-05-21T21:51:15.359+12:002012-05-21T21:51:15.359+12:00I really look forward to that. If we applaud and c...I really look forward to that. If we applaud and celebrate successful older women, we break one more shackle and peal off one more layer of prejudice.Khoty Mathurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09706537182743683089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-20796161057503470402012-05-21T18:44:47.897+12:002012-05-21T18:44:47.897+12:00Interesting post. The trends are changing even in ...Interesting post. The trends are changing even in bollywood but yes, not completely old women oriented movies are being taken up... but I hope as in the other bastions, here too women will triumph.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8230035528177800562.post-67288028037956435542012-05-21T18:38:46.524+12:002012-05-21T18:38:46.524+12:00Kayem, I feel that younger generation of women are...Kayem, I feel that younger generation of women are far more intelligent and forthcoming and with changes of time have managed to align themselves very well with changing circumstances and needs !Rahul Bhatiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09690287853990880735noreply@blogger.com